GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 31, 2012 6:46:04 AM
PLAN TO SELL the prius THIS fall(and buy the new Ford hybrid), the wive keeps giving me the Toy Prius to drive, so I can check out posible problems, latest break lock ups in wet weather! The Prius is clearly the least favorite to drive and the Ford Escape hybrid the desired ride in our family!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 30, 2012 6:47:00 AM
Full hybrids like the Ford Escape hybrid or the Ford Fusion hybrid get their EPA rated MPG when driven over 30 minutes per trip, under 55 mph, in warm weather, and if the driver accelerates and decelerates gently. A full hybrid like the Prius will get significantly below their EPA rating when driven hard, under 15 minutes per trip, in extreme cold, driven very fast around corner/bends, or/and driven at speeds over 70 mph.
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 27, 2012 9:52:29 PM
gbhugva, and that is why Ford discontinued the hybrid escape and have only one hybrid in their current model mix.... Of course you only buy used anyway...
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Bell30012

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Message Posted: May 27, 2012 9:38:57 PM
Ah yes, the multi-posting loser. Using that cut and paste all over the forum again, and again, and again. No wonder he drives an Escape Hybrid.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 27, 2012 9:22:23 PM
Ford Escape Hybrid is a better built veh. than the Prius, I have one of each, both driven equally. The Ford with 140K miles feels much more solid than the Toy with 103K on it. I don't care who sold more, the Ford wins in our family!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 26, 2012 7:42:52 AM
GBHUGVA,
using zip code 24210 which is close to where you say you are from....
cheapest NEW chevy Malibu - 2012 (no hybrid) - 23,255 No 2013 Chevy Malibu hybrids available. Cheapest NEW Ford Fusion - 2012 - 21,484 (non hybrid) No NEW Ford Fusion Hybrids available for 2012... No New Ford Escape Hybrids available for 2012... Toyota Prius V (two) - 28,104 Toyota Prius (two) - 25,454
Using your (unrelible source), In your area, proved you wrong again.
Embarassing...
[Edited by: reb4 at 5/26/2012 8:43:14 AM EST]
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 26, 2012 6:37:36 AM
STILL REB4 your link does not show real world (AT THE DEALER; READY TO BUY) prices!! Guess you didn't find a C for 18,900!! I used a bigger range than the windy city, results below.
Some real world prices on NEW cars from Cars.com ------------------------------------------------
Toy Prius Plug-in 33K - 48K Small car Toy Prius V ----- 27K - 39K Midsized car Toy Prius ------- 23K - 40K Small car Toy Prius C --- 19.9K - 27K Small car Chevy Volt ------ 37K - 48K Small car Chevy Malibu -- 15.9K - 42K Midsized car Ford Fusion --- 15.9K - 36K Midsized car Ford Fusion Hybrd 24K - 36K Midsized car Ford Escape Hybrd 28K - 33K Midsized SUV Lincoln MKZ Hybrd 30K - 42K Midsized car 2013's due in the fall as ussual!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 25, 2012 6:51:26 PM
I looked up www.cars.com for new cars... Lowest price in Chicago 60601 for brand new chevy malibu 2012 (not hybrid) is 17,325. new chevy malibu 2013 eco is 22,998.
Ford Escape Hybrid 2012 (none available)... Ford Fusion Hybrid 2012 27,664
Ford Fusion (non hybrid) 17,735
Toyota Prius C - 19,935 Toyota Prius II - 24,000 Toyota Prius V - 27,385
By the way 19 C's available, 28 V's when is Ford's new products coming out???
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 25, 2012 11:57:21 AM
STILL REB4 your link does not show real world (AT THE DEALER; READY TO BUY) prices!!
Some real world prices on NEW cars from Cars.com ------------------------------------------------
Toy Prius Plug-in 33K - 48K Small car Toy Prius V ----- 27K - 39K Midsized car Toy Prius ------- 23K - 40K Small car Toy Prius C --- 19.9K - 27K Small car Chevy Volt ------ 37K - 48K Small car Chevy Malibu -- 15.9K - 42K Midsized car Ford Fusion --- 15.9K - 36K Midsized car Ford Fusion Hybrd 24K - 36K Midsized car Ford Escape Hybrd 28K - 33K Midsized SUV Lincoln MKZ Hybrd 30K - 42K Midsized car
C...A...R...S . C...O...M NEW CARS Slow Boy!
So "Iggy" me butt wipe!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 25, 2012 11:45:50 AM
Chevy Malibu prices - per Chevy...
22,110 for 2012 (non hybrid) - 25,235 - ECO (Hybrid). ford Fusion - Base price from Web Site - 20,705 (this is 2012)... Not Hybrid...
Hybrid (2012) Ford Fusion is 28,775
Escape is no longer avaialble, they killed it...
Toyota Prius - C is 18,950 Toyota Prius - v is 26,550 Toyota Prius - 3dg is 24,000 Toyota Prius - Plugin is 32,000 Toyota's web site for prices
You are looking at used prices.... keep working at it though...
Your posts become more revealing as the facts come out... No wonder you are the most blocked person on gas buddy!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 25, 2012 9:13:27 AM
Some real world prices on NEW cars from Cars.com ------------------------------------------------
Toy Prius Plug-in 33K - 48K Small car Toy Prius V ----- 27K - 39K Midsized car Toy Prius ------- 23K - 40K Small car Toy Prius C --- 19.9K - 27K Small car Chevy Volt ------ 37K - 48K Small car Chevy Malibu -- 15.9K - 42K Midsized car Ford Fusion --- 15.9K - 36K Midsized car Ford Fusion Hybrd 24K - 36K Midsized car Ford Escape Hybrd 28K - 33K Midsized SUV Lincoln MKZ Hybrd 30K - 42K Midsized car
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 8:44:45 AM
Ford takes on Toyota with lower-priced hybrid May 17, 2012 12:04 AM ET.
By DEE-ANN DURBIN
TICKERS IN THIS ARTICLE.NAME LAST CHNG % CHNG # F 10.16 0.00 0.00
# TM 76.72 0.00 0.00
DETROIT (AP) - Ford is taking on Toyota in the hybrid market.
Ford Motor Co. said Thursday that its new C-Max hybrid small minivan will have a base price of $25,995 when it goes on sale this fall. That's $555 less than Toyota's Prius V wagon.
Ford says the C-Max's fuel economy will also beat the Prius V, which gets an estimated 42 miles per gallon in combined city and highway driving.
Toyota Motor Corp. has dominated the hybrid market for more than a decade. In March, for example, 65 percent of the 50,000 hybrids sold in the U.S. were made by Toyota, compared with 3.5 percent for Ford.
Ford hopes to change that with the five-seat C-Max, which will be sold only in hybrid, plug-in hybrid and electric versions.Fusion probably less than comprable Camry reb4!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 8:40:21 AM
prices, do you know what the price will be gbhugva?
I do, I'm a person that looks for it... haven't you checked out the prices on the 2013 Fusion?
Oh, likely not advertised... since it's so high...
[Edited by: reb4 at 5/24/2012 9:41:20 AM EST]
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 8:32:51 AM
Reb4, once again, its due out in the fall you Bozzo!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 8:28:49 AM
gbhugva, you should spend more time looking at the ford website to see that pricing is available for the 2013 Ford Fusion... Please don't tell me you didn't know this...
YOU DIDN'T DID YOU!
HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA, HA!
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Houckster

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 8:00:44 AM
I would love to have a Fusion hybrid if AWD were available.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 7:25:31 AM
Lexus kills off hybrid.....hmmm
Lincoln builds new hybrid...yeh!
reb4 is now a fortune teller?
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 7:18:13 AM
"Ford Fusion Earns Autoweek's Highest Honor: Named Best in Show at North American International Auto Show"DETROIT, Jan. 12, 2012 -- /PRNewswire/ -- Just days after being revealed to the world, the new Ford Fusion is already bringing home awards. The Autoweek editorial staff has chosen Fusion for its Best in Show award at the North American International Auto Show (NAIAS).
The selection is based on one compelling measurement – the car people will remember most five years from now.
"It's very rare for a midsize sedan to win Best in Show," said Autoweek Editor Wes Raynal. "I think it's the first of a lot of awards the Fusion is going to win this year."
For more information, check out these links: For photos, click here and here. For video of the awards presentation, click here. To read the Autoweek story, click here.
The highest award from Autoweek comes just one day after the car received the prestigious Detroit Institute of Ophthalmology's EyesOn Design award at NAIAS.
Fusion brings alive the next generation of more expressive vehicles from Ford. It is the first sedan to offer gasoline, hybrid and plug-in hybrid versions – each expected to deliver top fuel economy and an engaging driving experience.Hater reb4 is way off as ussual, also comparing tiny cars to midsize ones!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 24, 2012 7:12:37 AM
funny, ford fusion is more than the escape replacement... but the prius c is 6 or 7 K below them both...
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 23, 2012 8:02:55 AM
Ford takes on Toyota with lower-priced hybrid May 17, 2012 12:04 AM ET.
By DEE-ANN DURBIN
TICKERS IN THIS ARTICLE.NAME LAST CHNG % CHNG # F 10.16 0.00 0.00
# TM 76.72 0.00 0.00
DETROIT (AP) - Ford is taking on Toyota in the hybrid market.
Ford Motor Co. said Thursday that its new C-Max hybrid small minivan will have a base price of $25,995 when it goes on sale this fall. That's $500 less than Toyota's Prius V wagon.
Ford says the C-Max's fuel economy will also beat the Prius V, which gets an estimated 42 miles per gallon in combined city and highway driving.
Toyota Motor Corp. has dominated the hybrid market for more than a decade. In March, for example, 65 percent of the 50,000 hybrids sold in the U.S. were made by Toyota, compared with 3.5 percent for Ford.
Ford hopes to change that with the five-seat C-Max, which will be sold only in hybrid, plug-in hybrid and electric versions.
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 23, 2012 7:52:22 AM
ford fusion is expensive... for a ford...
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 23, 2012 7:15:35 AM
The prius is a small car, the Ford Escape Hybrid(still available) offers much more room. The new Ford C-Max which will pick up where the Escape leaves off will have more room than the largest prius V and be $555 less than the V.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 22, 2012 7:49:21 AM
Our 2005 Ford Escape Hybrib has needed nothing but oil changes 140K miles on it, and N.Y. & SanFran Taxies with 300K miles have had no problems with the hybrid systems, only break pads, oil, some gas and go!!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 22, 2012 7:16:19 AM
gbhugva, just like ford did with the escape...
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OilerFan

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Message Posted: May 22, 2012 6:32:36 AM
I want the 100 mpg
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 22, 2012 6:13:54 AM
Lexus kills off hybrid.....
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 21, 2012 8:46:12 AM
gbhugva, ford is about 5 years behind toyota... unfortuately, toyota is still moving forward... let me know when you actually purchase one of the new vehicles that you think are so great....
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 21, 2012 6:58:09 AM
Look out Toy!!!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 7:57:59 PM
SE Hybrid $27,995, for the hybrid.... of course, need to wait until fall for delivery.... 2013 Ford Pricing - It's getting closer, maybe 3 months to go!!! or 5 if you really want to drive off the lot!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 6:25:26 PM
filled my 2010 prius .... 59.80 mpg on this tank, and ytd 52.81mpg
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 6:59:40 AM
Oh, I forgot todays cut and paste...My $ is in realistate, cars are a bad investment, we have too many to count, but never buy new. I'm waiting to crunch the numbers, I really want to replace this POS prius. Only thing good about it is the 40-41mpg. I think if the Ford C-max 7passenger, plug-in hybrid is offered I will bite the bullet and buy new. Make my wife happy and clean house or rather driveway. Sell the prius, Merc. V van, and some others, and get a newer Mustang too.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 6:58:58 AM
My wife would like that too, ding-a-ling, she says I waste too much time arguing with you bozo's.
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Bell30012

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Message Posted: May 20, 2012 5:12:00 AM
GBHUGVA, cutting and pasting the same thing in every thread you come across really shows that you don't want to answer the thread. Rather you want to spread your drivel across the forum. Hopefully, the forum moderators have taken note by now of your boring tactic.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 19, 2012 10:00:24 PM
reb4 I'm not a nerd that tracks sales for varius car companies, and I find the majority of your posts boring. Did you leave your help desk job for a Toyota salesman job, or do you own stock in toy? Do your own research, I could careless, and I don't own Ford stock so don't bother me with the numbers. I just like to promote American when I know they have a product just as good as asian ones.
So your saying safety is not an issue in Europe?
rear end collisions... I guess I'll leave that one alone, this time, they used to hire gays for help desk where I worked, becuase you guys are ussually very pollite.
No Bell its just quicker, so I don't waste too much time debating crap with you morons!
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Bell30012

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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 8:10:55 PM
Ah, that same old practice of posting the same exact posts in about every thread possible on the forum. Yes, yes it is defiantly a weak mind that has to use copy and paste.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 18, 2012 12:05:52 PM
The Ford C-Max Hybrid will use higher-performance lithium-ion batteries and put out 188 horsepower, compared with the Prius V's 134 horsepower and nickel-metal-hydride cells. Ford's hybrid will also operate at up to 62 mph in electric mode, similar to the Kia Optima Hybrid. (Toyota hybrids cannot drive much faster than 25 mph on their batteries alone.)
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 17, 2012 10:18:28 AM
DETROIT (AP) - Ford is taking on Toyota in the hybrid market.
Ford Motor Co. said Thursday that its new C-Max hybrid small minivan will have a base price of $25,995 when it goes on sale this fall. That's $500 less than Toyota's Prius V wagon.
Ford says the C-Max's fuel economy will also beat the Prius V, which gets an estimated 42 miles per gallon in combined city and highway driving.
Ford's new five-seat C-Max, will be sold only in hybrid, plug-in hybrid and electric versions.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 16, 2012 7:57:52 AM
"Honda like Toyota lies about MPG's, The wifes Prius got 40.3(395miles on 9.8gal) last fill NOT the 60/51 Toyota claims."
2004-2007 Toyota claimed 60 mpg city/51 mpg highway later in 2008 it was changed to 48 mpg city/45 mpg highway still higher than we get.
Our 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid gets 32.5 most of the time, paid 10grand the wifes P.O.S. 2004 prius only gets 40.3 not 60 like they said, but she got it for 7grand, ok beater I guess, but the Ford is our favorite, better quality for sure!
reb4, that driving 30-40mph in 45-55limit roads will get you rear-ended, oh maybe your into that kinda thing!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 14, 2012 6:18:03 AM
Unfortunately My wife does, last tank 40.3(395miles on 9.8gal.s), waiting to trade to Ford Plug-in Hybred, we love our Ford Escape Hybrid!
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reb4

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Message Posted: May 12, 2012 8:10:39 AM
Average MPG this year, 52.27MPG, last tank 55.78MPG 2010 Toyota Prius!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 10:50:13 AM
"Honda like Toyota lies about MPG's, The wifes Prius got 40.3(395miles on 9.8gal) last fill NOT the 60/51 Toyota claims."
gvan, in 2004-2007 Toyota claimed 60 mpg city/51 mpg highway later in 2008 it was changed to 48 mpg city/45 mpg highway still higher than we get.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 10, 2012 6:35:58 AM
A NICE USED FORD Escape/MERCURY Mariner/MAZDA Tribute HYBRID IS THE WAY TO GO! Let someone else pay for the tech.research and dev.
Our 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid gets 32.5 most of the time, paid 10grand the wifes P.O.S. 2004 prius only gets 40.3 not 60 like they said, but she got it for 7grand, ok beater I guess, but the Ford is our favorite, better quality for sure!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:16:42 AM
If you don't need the room the Ford Fiesta is a great car, my sisters son has been trying to find a used one, too new I told her.
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W707

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Message Posted: May 8, 2012 12:46:30 PM
The Fussion looks great but i went with a 2012 Ford Fiesta standard shift rated at 40 to 45 mpg and thats with an automatic so i'll be letting everyone know the mpg i'm getting.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 8, 2012 8:33:25 AM
A NICE USED FORD Escape/MERCURY Mariner/MAZDA Tribute HYBRIDs IS THE WAY TO GO 32.5mpg!! A 2005 can be found under $10K
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 7, 2012 6:43:52 AM
Thats why I don't buy new, as I've posted MANY times :D :
A NICE USED FORD Escape/MERCURY Mariner/MAZDA Tribute HYBRID IS THE WAY TO GO! Let someone else pay for the tech.research and dev.
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: May 6, 2012 5:42:47 AM
Still staying clear of thoose Honda's with steering issues!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 6:32:04 AM
A NICE USED FORD Escape/MERCURY Mariner/MAZDA Tribute HYBRIDs IS THE WAY TO GO 32.5mpg!! A 2005 can be found under $10K
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: Apr 27, 2012 8:26:23 AM
While we wait ... A NICE USED FORD Escape/MERCURY Mariner/MAZDA Tribute HYBRID IS THE WAY TO GO!
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GBHUGVA

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Message Posted: Apr 23, 2012 6:33:20 AM
Plug-in Hybrid is the best of both worlds. Ford's new 2013 Plug-in Hybrids C-Max and Fusion are excelent choices
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