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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Mar 28, 2012 12:50:17 PM Ignore PD Report Abuse Candy Burnett is an extreme commuter; (90 minutes each way from her home in Lynchburg, VA to her job in Rocky Mount) so her gas mileage is critical to her. And for the past two or three years, she's been filling up at stations that sell pure, ethanol-free gas, according to the Lynchburg News and Advance. "It's good for the car; it gets better mileage," she said. She even said that when she takes her car in for regular maintenance she's told that her engine looks cleaner. In her area some retailers sell both E-10, the regular gas that contains up to 10% ethanol, and, ethanol-free fuel. One retailer who just started selling 90-octane ethanol-free gas only two weeks ago says he has growing customer demand for... Visit GasBuddy Blog for full article

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Candy Burnett is an extreme commuter; (90 minutes each way from her home in Lynchburg, VA to her job in Rocky Mount) so her gas mileage is critical to her.

And for the past two or three years, she's been filling up at stations that sell pure, ethanol-free gas, according to the Lynchburg News and Advance.

"It's good for the car; it gets better mileage," she said. She even said that when she takes her car in for regular maintenance she's told that her engine looks cleaner.

In her area some retailers sell both E-10, the regular gas that contains up to 10% ethanol, and, ethanol-free fuel. One retailer who just started selling 90-octane ethanol-free gas only two weeks ago says he has growing customer demand for...

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albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,487 Points:1,507,735 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 7:43:29 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse its better in some applications
Donatelo Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,168 Points:307,705 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jul 9, 2012 6:41:38 AM Ignore Donatelo Report Abuse ok
StationGF Sophomore Author Chicago Posts:121 Points:35,470 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 2:48:52 PM Ignore StationGF Report Abuse go ethanol-free gas!!
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,487 Points:1,346,755 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Jul 8, 2012 12:40:56 PM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse Ethanol has differing solubilities and stirs up the gas tank dirtying up the engine or clogging the filter. Ruined my lawnmower. Now I drive out of my way to buy pure gas.
yourgas Champion Author Ontario Posts:10,352 Points:1,871,225 Joined:Jan 2003	Message Posted: Jul 7, 2012 4:46:59 PM Ignore yourgas Report Abuse no ethanol for me - ate thru fuel filter bowl in my Honda mower = $120.00 to fix - down with ethanol - grow food, not corn
albert2008 Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:7,487 Points:1,507,735 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 7:54:57 AM Ignore albert2008 Report Abuse not here not available
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,828 Points:1,637,220 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 1, 2012 6:46:50 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse great if you still have any E0 stations, gasokie. Around here no one sells it anymore.
gasokie Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:3,487 Points:1,346,755 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 10:34:05 AM Ignore gasokie Report Abuse Just looking for something to nit pick about I checked the millage on my car a few times to see if that little computer gadget was actually correct. It was right on. Which I mention to say this: When I use EO gas it usually cost about 10 (3%) cents/gal more but my millage increases about 2.5 (10%) MPG. A few apples and oranges here I admit. I have to go out of town to get it--living out in the middle of nowhere and 5 of the 6 gas stations here have shut down now. Since I now have to "haul" gas for my boat and lawn care equipment anyway I keep track of where these EO stations are in my area.
KAR120CSII Champion Author Oregon Posts:3,282 Points:641,755 Joined:Apr 2010	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 9:19:14 AM Ignore KAR120CSII Report Abuse Right rjhenn -- same confusing pricing in ND -- and none of the station attendants can tell you anything. Agree on the coast you can get ethanol free (marine gas) but it's a buck higher. Try pure-gas.org for list of E0's. There are web sites out there for local and for traveling stations.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,828 Points:1,637,220 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 7:28:39 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse wished there were still stations here that would sell E0. Would be happy to buy it. The last station I knew that sold EtOH-free gasoline traded owners and the new (no longer independent) corporation owner phased E0 out pretty fast.
dradamcaldwell Rookie Author Dayton Posts:2 Points:165 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Mar 31, 2012 5:53:10 AM Ignore dradamcaldwell Report Abuse The lies the Ethanol manufactures do not want you to see
asog75 All-Star Author Indiana Posts:838 Points:283,245 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 10:48:13 PM Ignore asog75 Report Abuse interesting
Donatelo Champion Author Dayton Posts:1,168 Points:307,705 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 9:43:13 PM Ignore Donatelo Report Abuse ok
rjhenn Champion Author Des Moines Posts:22,606 Points:2,256,995 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 3:07:14 PM Ignore rjhenn Report Abuse Funny, here in the heart of ethanol country, most gas stations sell regular (E0), plus (E10) and premium (E10). Plus is cheapest, then regular, then super (which means that many who don't pay attention post prices for regular as midgrade and vice versa). The only stations I've seen that don't sell regular (E0) sell a "super premium" that's E10 and a couple of octane higher than premium. Though I suspect that even regular has a bit of ethanol in it, to replace MTBE.
mrjames1818 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,686 Points:2,025,795 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 1:31:38 PM Ignore mrjames1818 Report Abuse AMEN - What I put in my car is my business - not the government
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,828 Points:1,637,220 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 30, 2012 4:59:17 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse EtOH has never been the answer and will not be the answer. if it is, the question has been asked in the wrong manner.
jcurley Champion Author California Posts:8,018 Points:1,801,520 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 8:54:09 PM Ignore jcurley Report Abuse 90-octane? No wonder the engine is cleaner.
DrCashFlow Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:7,204 Points:1,654,785 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 5:08:05 PM Ignore DrCashFlow Report Abuse Gains a following? Never lost it.
judgemobile Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,705 Points:2,472,635 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 4:43:39 PM Ignore judgemobile Report Abuse Corn is for FOOD--oil is for fuel
Furrykids Sophomore Author Gainesville Posts:233 Points:579,100 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 3:29:57 PM Ignore Furrykids Report Abuse Ethanol is ruining our cars.
yourgas Champion Author Ontario Posts:10,352 Points:1,871,225 Joined:Jan 2003	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:44:33 PM Ignore yourgas Report Abuse In Canada- reg gas = 10%, mid grade gas = 5%, hi test = 0% ethanol >>>>but does it ever cost. Why will the gov't announce their subsidy for corn growers etc & producers of ethanol >>> and how about the gas/diesel/ethanol required to produce ethanol. Loss of farmland to corn also hurts our food bill. Bottom line >> keep the farmers and the enviroment activists happy at any cost
GatorGuy Champion Author Columbia Posts:2,284 Points:1,226,490 Joined:Jan 2009	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:34:36 PM Ignore GatorGuy Report Abuse I can only find one station in my area that has real gas anymore. I can't blame them for trying, but admit the ethanol isn't all it's cracked up to be.
platinum16434 Veteran Author Houston Posts:289 Points:121,545 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:16:42 PM Ignore platinum16434 Report Abuse Same here in Houston. No ethanol-free gas. I think somewhere near the border of TX and OK on I35 in TX part, there is 1 gas station that sells ethanol-free gasolines, all 3 grades.
BooHooMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,556 Points:344,610 Joined:Sep 2010	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:09:50 PM Ignore BooHooMI Report Abuse The ethanol craze was started was started by misguided zealots.
Hangnail309 Champion Author Manitoba Posts:6,163 Points:1,704,860 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:08:06 PM Ignore Hangnail309 Report Abuse Ethanol is less efficient and has been proven to decrease vehicle mpg, so I do not use it ...
Car54BC08 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:4,394 Points:1,538,040 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:06:33 PM Ignore Car54BC08 Report Abuse Good for Candy. Just say NO to drugs and NO to ethanol !!!!
HDROCKIESRIDER Sophomore Author Denver Posts:195 Points:479,375 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:06:22 PM Ignore HDROCKIESRIDER Report Abuse I've ALWAYS purchased ethanol free gasoline when it was available. Unfortunately here in Colorado it became a state law to blend in 10% ethanol in all gasoline sold since the late 1980s and ethanol free fuels went the way of the dinosaur (pun intended). The extra cost of NOT having this corrosive garbage in your car would be more than offset in most cases by the extra mileage and better/longer lasting engines. That's why there are products on the market that are sold to reduce the negative effects on ethanol fuels. I agree that "Local governments should find better things to do than worry about what kind of gas you choose to run your car or truck. It's your business and nobody else's." BAN ETHANOL NOW (AND THE EPA FOR THAT MATTER)
Louscanon Champion Author Baltimore Posts:13,985 Points:2,793,290 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:03:00 PM Ignore Louscanon Report Abuse When Obama took office gas was $1.83 per gallon.
jd4230 Champion Author Missouri Posts:1,590 Points:765,115 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 2:02:41 PM Ignore jd4230 Report Abuse CHEAPER FUEL = MORE JOBS = BETTER ECONOMY
slowpoke63 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:2,817 Points:903,890 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:59:05 PM Ignore slowpoke63 Report Abuse Ethanol-free gas is the best. I'm having to "treat" the junkanol I'm getting now with additive just for the truck to run decent.
jimbo1867 Champion Author Arizona Posts:5,512 Points:2,082,250 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:57:16 PM Ignore jimbo1867 Report Abuse say NO to ethanol
eye-spy Champion Author Quebec Posts:4,723 Points:2,445,320 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:55:19 PM Ignore eye-spy Report Abuse Get rid of ethanol.
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,848 Points:2,181,650 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:54:31 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Ethanol is not good for gas but big brother tells us what to use.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:35,337 Points:2,399,070 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:53:09 PM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse it would be nice if it where available nation wide
srchr Champion Author San Jose Posts:7,391 Points:1,647,525 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:52:53 PM Ignore srchr Report Abuse not as much energy in ethanol
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:8,319 Points:1,258,720 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:50:24 PM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse Unfortunately ethanol free is not available in the Republican state of Arizona.
marsbars Champion Author Alaska Posts:2,675 Points:1,184,585 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:45:59 PM Ignore marsbars Report Abuse Ethanol free gas gets better mileage... sounds like a no brainer to me.
DeeLA Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,959 Points:1,392,930 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:43:33 PM Ignore DeeLA Report Abuse One of yesterday's news items repeated.
RTN Rookie Author South Carolina Posts:15 Points:42,110 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:43:09 PM Ignore RTN Report Abuse My 08 STS gets nearly 10% greater mileage on ethanol-free gas. At $4.00 a gallon, the "break even" cost point would be nearly $4.40 a gallon - not to mention the other benefits.
NO_SWEAT Champion Author Toronto Posts:4,474 Points:1,105,540 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:42:22 PM Ignore NO_SWEAT Report Abuse Rather have corn on the cob than eth in my tank
jci25946 Champion Author Tampa Posts:3,402 Points:967,265 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:40:55 PM Ignore jci25946 Report Abuse Ethanol free fuel is good but NG/LPG vehicles are the best answer!!!
BudsterMO Champion Author Kansas City Posts:3,850 Points:730,880 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:40:11 PM Ignore BudsterMO Report Abuse The only true way out of the ethanol mess is to change the law that requires it. You can bet the corn states will fight that cob and kernel all the way. I think they see the end of ethanol is coming since the $.45 cents per gallon subsidy ended on 1/1/2012. Contact your local polititions and tell them to rescind the ethanol law.
boldrph Champion Author Topeka Posts:18,533 Points:3,478,590 Joined:Oct 2002	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:38:45 PM Ignore boldrph Report Abuse ethanol burns nicely. should make a useful fuel
amayne11 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,839 Points:526,535 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:34:38 PM Ignore amayne11 Report Abuse If ethanol is so costly in maintenance and mileage, we should stop using it, it would make the price of corn go down as well.
bigrigAZ Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,818 Points:1,069,860 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:32:56 PM Ignore bigrigAZ Report Abuse Lets have ethonal-free gas every where and stop the EPA from costing us more money for every thing every time you turn around.
amearly Champion Author Michigan Posts:12,255 Points:2,494,335 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:32:30 PM Ignore amearly Report Abuse Stop burning up our food source .
gamalerin Champion Author Tampa Posts:4,882 Points:1,020,010 Joined:Jul 2010	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:31:10 PM Ignore gamalerin Report Abuse who cars ?
jalan25 Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:2,445 Points:597,070 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:30:24 PM Ignore jalan25 Report Abuse We still need a comprehensive energy plan.
peapaw Champion Author Ohio Posts:4,185 Points:716,470 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:28:23 PM Ignore peapaw Report Abuse This group of folks are worse than Lemmings (they don't have a clue) Ethanol is the worst fuel in the history of mankind, expensive to make, MPG inefficient, will corrode anything it touches because of high water content, drives up food prices, and on and on.
CobraJ Champion Author Tampa Posts:1,015 Points:377,425 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Mar 29, 2012 1:25:00 PM Ignore CobraJ Report Abuse Here in Florida, I am fortunate there are places that sell ethanol free gasoline because I live near the Gulf Coast and therefore marine engines need it. I’ve been to several places that sell ethanol free gasoline and the sign on the pumps says "Recreational Fuel” only for boats, motorcycles, small engines (lawn equipment) and classic vehicles, but the station operators don’t really enforce it. I run 3 of my cars on non-ethanol gas. The youngest car is 7 years old, the second youngest is 15 years old, and the oldest is 29 years old (almost a classic). Ever since I’ve been running them on ethanol free gasoline, they have been averaging 3 to 4 MPG better than when I was using E-10. In other words, the true MPG they should be getting before ethanol was added several years ago. The cost may be a .15 to .20 cents higher than the average prices in my local city and surrounding areas, but for me I think it’s worth it. As long as they keep selling, I’ll keep buying no matter how high the price goes because I can afford it.