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Suddenly A Nasty Fight over Subsidies for Nukes in Europe

Testosterone Pit -- France, the UK, Poland, and the Czech Republic, which are all planning or building nuclear power plants, are pressuring the European Union to open up the spigot...

Their goal: get the EU to reclassify nuclear energy as low-emission technology, a heavily subsidized category that includes solar and wind power; it would make nuclear power eligible for the same subsidies. Their argument: Europe's commitment to shift to low-emission power generation by 2050 would have to be “technology neutral.”

If the four countries succeed, the EU could subsidize not only construction of nuclear power plants but also the sale of their electricity to the tune of billions of euros—to be paid by all taxpayers in the EU via the EU budget, 20% of which falls upon German taxpayers. Alas, it’s precisely Germany

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Submitted Apr 14, 2012 By: ccf_jeff

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Mowerman08 Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:4,755 Points:1,217,020 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:33:03 PM Ignore Mowerman08 Report Abuse Nukes in Europe, but not the U.S.
vollee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:1,767 Points:759,000 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:28:16 PM Ignore vollee Report Abuse Yep - The Euro socialists will try to steal from the rich countries to subsidize the rest. Crap like this will eventually lead to the dissolution of the EU. Of course this is the same approach taken by our current socialist prez. He is using the "class warfare" approach to achieve same. I'm waiting for when Texas exercises its Constitutional right to exit the USA. If ol' Obozo keeps up this trend of stealing from the rich, Texas will certainly give it more consideration. Maybe I need to move back to Texas. For now, vote Nov 6 for regime change.
esorsd Champion Author St. Louis Posts:5,728 Points:1,636,790 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:25:25 PM Ignore esorsd Report Abuse ok
nvwarped All-Star Author Corpus Christi Posts:893 Points:453,750 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:25:10 PM Ignore nvwarped Report Abuse ok
letterchunker Champion Author Texas Posts:2,245 Points:667,675 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:24:25 PM Ignore letterchunker Report Abuse okay
hibsaw Champion Author Mississippi Posts:8,037 Points:1,680,990 Joined:Feb 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:24:11 PM Ignore hibsaw Report Abuse That will make gas prices go up too.
Rancher23 Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:3,188 Points:658,370 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:21:17 PM Ignore Rancher23 Report Abuse Whatever!!!
g747 Champion Author Mobile Posts:4,536 Points:932,695 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:17:05 PM Ignore g747 Report Abuse Everyone will benefit from it!!!!!!!!!!.
ShabbyPA Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:2,815 Points:680,490 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:13:16 PM Ignore ShabbyPA Report Abuse whatever
FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,239 Points:1,684,225 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:11:26 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Nukes are the way to go for cheap energy. Just ask Homer Simpson.
Ahking Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,502 Points:602,520 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:10:32 PM Ignore Ahking Report Abuse Oil is expensive because everyone wants it. So, be happy that some people want something else.
Bud122CA Champion Author California Posts:7,466 Points:1,605,100 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:07:20 PM Ignore Bud122CA Report Abuse They should build the power plants. So should we, MR. O
FrankTA2 Champion Author New York Posts:4,293 Points:1,094,560 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:05:00 PM Ignore FrankTA2 Report Abuse Another disaster waiting to happen in the works.
Van_Halen Champion Author Atlanta Posts:2,850 Points:641,230 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:02:43 PM Ignore Van_Halen Report Abuse . The EU already has 2 to 3 times the amount of nuclear energy we have. When we stopped building they started to build heavily! Go old Dumbocrats, EPA, and DOE have harmed this country more then you can even remotely imagine! No new Refineries since 1979, not a single nuclear reactor started since 1974 and out of all that were started after 1973 not a single one has been finished! It time to finish ALL our projects and start 100 of the new style minis that use old style reactor waste as their fuel and only need to have a new core every 100 years or so (and the removed core is safe as its all depleted waste).
Pete12 Champion Author Albany Posts:4,871 Points:1,643,240 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:00:09 PM Ignore Pete12 Report Abuse That's Europe let them handle their own affairs.
swrestler Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:6,130 Points:1,570,850 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:58:58 PM Ignore swrestler Report Abuse Subsidies No Way....
pizzaman777 Rookie Author Little Rock Posts:20 Points:4,200 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:56:49 PM Ignore pizzaman777 Report Abuse ok
RobertSpratt Champion Author Virginia Beach Posts:4,830 Points:1,044,790 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:55:47 PM Ignore RobertSpratt Report Abuse are we giving away cash again
goodbuy Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,663 Points:1,421,005 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:55:32 PM Ignore goodbuy Report Abuse That would be good for them if it lowers the price of fuel.
30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,014 Points:1,486,655 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:54:21 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse If you aim to avoid burning carbon, nuclear is a large part of the future
drz614 Champion Author Harrisburg Posts:2,294 Points:596,645 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:44:26 PM Ignore drz614 Report Abuse ok
TDIdave Champion Author California Posts:5,053 Points:1,223,765 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:44:21 PM Ignore TDIdave Report Abuse hmmmm.
mikaye Champion Author Cleveland Posts:3,829 Points:864,435 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:42:59 PM Ignore mikaye Report Abuse why subsidize any? if they cannot make it on their own, why promote them
IUVidiot Champion Author Indiana Posts:3,580 Points:707,385 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:41:12 PM Ignore IUVidiot Report Abuse Ok
camel1 Champion Author Minnesota Posts:8,265 Points:2,265,640 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:40:21 PM Ignore camel1 Report Abuse Low emission is questionable with the long half-life of radiation
js0743 All-Star Author Georgia Posts:981 Points:457,880 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:39:11 PM Ignore js0743 Report Abuse subsidies are rarely a good idea.
craigsf38 Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,708 Points:1,509,280 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:38:42 PM Ignore craigsf38 Report Abuse OK
js0743 All-Star Author Georgia Posts:981 Points:457,880 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:38:36 PM Ignore js0743 Report Abuse subsidies are rarely a good idea.
kzrooster Champion Author Kalamazoo Posts:2,380 Points:515,775 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:37:41 PM Ignore kzrooster Report Abuse READING
walkingtall Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,989 Points:1,119,730 Joined:Nov 2004	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:37:04 PM Ignore walkingtall Report Abuse Would make sense to fix something broken.
Debrastorch Veteran Author Florida Posts:397 Points:94,145 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:35:06 PM Ignore Debrastorch Report Abuse Wouldn't it make more sense fix something that is broken when there are many other things that are?
arinkrat17 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:6,284 Points:1,330,500 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:35:00 PM Ignore arinkrat17 Report Abuse they can pay for their own things
theschmuck Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,912 Points:1,510,650 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:32:48 PM Ignore theschmuck Report Abuse Europe has their own problems, let them solve it.We have our own and nothing is being done about it because it's n election year!!!!!!!!!!?????
rpr77 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:3,895 Points:767,285 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:25:32 PM Ignore rpr77 Report Abuse ok
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:12,081 Points:2,550,030 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:22:54 PM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse Subsidy means unsuccessful
feistyfella All-Star Author Georgia Posts:881 Points:193,245 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:21:10 PM Ignore feistyfella Report Abuse :o
bevmill Champion Author Georgia Posts:2,572 Points:599,345 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:18:09 PM Ignore bevmill Report Abuse ok
JoeBaker1968 Rookie Author Ohio Posts:21 Points:304,335 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:09:40 PM Ignore JoeBaker1968 Report Abuse The arguments over fossil fuels versus nuclear seem to me like the difference between living your life eating junk food (fossil fuel) or eating farm-fresh food (nuclear). Eating junk food may be easier, but the long-term effects are disastrous. Meanwhile, eating farm-fresh is clearly better for our overall health. Problem is, you can't say when the next e. coli breakout will occur. Using fossil fuels, I believe, will leave us with a worse off world. Not only is there a constant stream of contaminants in our air, soil, and water, there are issues with safe disposal and retention of waste from coal plants. Or did we already forget about the coal-ash spill a couple years back? Environmental devastation for that area, and untold long-term damage. Maybe there is more to the discussion. I think it can be approached from a more comprehensive approach. We need to continue talking about including wind, solar, and burning our waste (that solves two problems at once!).
MDTDriver Champion Author California Posts:9,724 Points:2,154,645 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:08:39 PM Ignore MDTDriver Report Abuse Subsidies are bad for every where and a waist of MONEY.
texasvet Champion Author Texas Posts:3,823 Points:360,120 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:07:16 PM Ignore texasvet Report Abuse Europeans panicking over nothing, as usual, and then running to us to bail them out.
gobux10 Champion Author Ohio Posts:3,169 Points:678,985 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:07:04 PM Ignore gobux10 Report Abuse careful
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,984 Points:1,111,375 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:06:54 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Greed for subsidies???
JimL1 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:8,217 Points:1,241,520 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:04:57 PM Ignore JimL1 Report Abuse The Tea Party people should have a field day with this. Back in my day everyone called the anti-nuclear power people Communists.
wilbur_gas Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:1,702 Points:645,610 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 7:01:11 PM Ignore wilbur_gas Report Abuse Good for them. Post the down wind message.
Suzzoom Champion Author Nevada Posts:2,358 Points:504,940 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:57:34 PM Ignore Suzzoom Report Abuse At least their waste won't go to Yucca Mountain--I hope!
SUPPER Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:2,473 Points:1,287,745 Joined:Dec 2004	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:57:20 PM Ignore SUPPER Report Abuse Danger keep out
AAxterra Champion Author Tennessee Posts:3,769 Points:769,435 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:56:38 PM Ignore AAxterra Report Abuse ok
stevencr Champion Author Ohio Posts:5,651 Points:1,433,790 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:54:58 PM Ignore stevencr Report Abuse The way I see it, nuclear power can be safe, but very expensive, when done right. There are definately going to be some big losers if the EU agrees to the subsidies, the tax payers taking the biggest hit.
pnd1 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:5,201 Points:1,065,110 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:54:31 PM Ignore pnd1 Report Abuse Nuclear is the only thing that provides enough bang for the buck that could ever hope to replace fossil fuels for electrical production. However, why do they need a subsidy?
uptherefiners Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,048 Points:1,002,000 Joined:Jun 2006	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:47:10 PM Ignore uptherefiners Report Abuse tell 'em geo if it's built right, it works
geoutpb Champion Author Midland Odessa Posts:4,623 Points:1,066,310 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:44:31 PM Ignore geoutpb Report Abuse Nuclear power works, if you do not build in near the ocean, or on a major tectonic fault line.
CorvairHaven Champion Author Cleveland Posts:4,349 Points:1,452,965 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 6:40:16 PM Ignore CorvairHaven Report Abuse Danger Will Robinson!