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Nearly 200 commercial pilots faked experience, China says

CNN -- Beijing, China (CNN) -- Nearly 200 commercial pilots in China falsified their flying experience, Chinese aviation officials have discovered.

The announcement follows one of China's worst plane crashes in six years, and highlights the high demand for pilots as the country has seen a boon in air travel.

Aviation officials began investigating pilot qualifications after the Shanghai-based China Business News broke the story. Implicated pilots have had their licenses revoked or have been ordered to take extra training, according to state-run media.

The investigation of pilot qualifications is part of an overhaul of airline safety, the Civil Aviation Administration of China said, according to the state-run China Daily.

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,285 Points:1,145,225 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 3:39:00 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse if cheap manufacturing is moving to Cambodia now, Urbandweller, where will it go next? North Korea? That's about the only place it CAN go.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:15,285 Points:1,145,225 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 11, 2010 3:37:34 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse wonder how many US pilots also faked their credentials?
urban_dweller Champion Author Orlando Posts:1,659 Points:65,420 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 10, 2010 1:06:13 AM Ignore urban_dweller Report Abuse Sneakers55, not to Thailand. Heading to Cambodia.
Nicoalbum Champion Author Ottawa Posts:3,596 Points:726,260 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 2:05:48 PM Ignore Nicoalbum Report Abuse Like many other things in China.
SVmike Champion Author California Posts:1,426 Points:307,850 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 1:44:44 PM Ignore SVmike Report Abuse I guess it is pretty obvious why this is on topic. By hiring all these pilots China is able to get their airline expenses low, thus enabling more people to fly, thus consuming more oil, thus driving up the price of oil on the world market.
Sneakers55 Champion Author Houston Posts:43,422 Points:1,715,030 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 1:34:09 PM Ignore Sneakers55 Report Abuse rsm315 wrote: >China fakes quality products daily and stupid people buy them. Its a fake country! Find me an American made laptop. That said, most of them have Intel Inside. Intel has their chip fabs in the USA, Ireland, and Israel. China is getting too expensive anyway, the sneaker makers are heading to Thailand and Vietnam.
t_flor Champion Author Illinois Posts:2,195 Points:723,240 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 1:07:50 PM Ignore t_flor Report Abuse remay! Love it...were they made in China?
OHMS Champion Author Orange County Posts:10,815 Points:1,253,445 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 12:55:41 PM Ignore OHMS Report Abuse DON'T be surprised if they do it here too. Or work overload schedules where little is learning except staying awake
remay Champion Author Houston Posts:4,716 Points:1,658,720 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 12:13:33 PM Ignore remay Report Abuse So does this mean it's not just the "made in China" products that might be considered inferior?
jedintheshed Champion Author Colorado Springs Posts:1,587 Points:477,640 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 10:31:40 AM Ignore jedintheshed Report Abuse Not surprised.
Luckylindy Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:2,166 Points:671,220 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 10:03:32 AM Ignore Luckylindy Report Abuse How long before American and United are hiring these bozos to fly here?
ramammoth Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,389 Points:278,565 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 9:30:55 AM Ignore ramammoth Report Abuse Is is so honorable to fake credentials? I guess faking is a worldwide problem.
GingoutMD Champion Author Maryland Posts:2,317 Points:476,705 Joined:Jan 2010	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 8:32:16 AM Ignore GingoutMD Report Abuse With more of China's businesses becoming "privatized," it is not a surprise that the communist government is beginning to loose track of things, including something as critical as pilot experience.
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:6,329 Points:1,021,395 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 8:13:35 AM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse How do you fake qualifications in a police state?
katmandue Champion Author Detroit Posts:5,764 Points:1,680,040 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:37:26 AM Ignore katmandue Report Abuse And the anti union people want us to become more like China.
bluehawk43 All-Star Author Arkansas Posts:679 Points:503,890 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:31:08 AM Ignore bluehawk43 Report Abuse Not the first time I have heard of someone faking something.
chemist74 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:12,392 Points:2,180,040 Joined:Apr 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:26:45 AM Ignore chemist74 Report Abuse I guess if these unqualified pilots crash enough Chinese aircraft it could lower the demand for jet fuel a little.
tbgasmizer Champion Author Ontario Posts:3,795 Points:792,295 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:25:14 AM Ignore tbgasmizer Report Abuse Nearly 200 commercial pilots in China falsified their flying experience,not a good record and I would not be telling everyone.
dan30thz28 Champion Author New Jersey Posts:3,700 Points:1,539,970 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:24:03 AM Ignore dan30thz28 Report Abuse Sometimes a stretch will get you points regardless.
CptnCanada Champion Author Saskatoon Posts:5,058 Points:666,950 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:23:58 AM Ignore CptnCanada Report Abuse OFF TOPIC... WAY OFFJust dont let Chinese pilots into our air space...
badbonita Champion Author Syracuse Posts:3,851 Points:889,655 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:14:12 AM Ignore badbonita Report Abuse Gotta agree with FuelOilOH - bit of a stretch to connect this article with gas buddy concerns. Interesting nonetheless.
FuelOilOH Champion Author Cleveland Posts:2,338 Points:948,655 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:10:53 AM Ignore FuelOilOH Report Abuse Let's see... if the plane gets lost because the pilot can't read a map it uses more fuel so it impacts the supply and demand of oil. streeeeeetch
rsm315 Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,174 Points:310,885 Joined:Dec 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:10:08 AM Ignore rsm315 Report Abuse China fakes quality products daily and stupid people buy them. Its a fake country!
turbodog Champion Author Mississippi Posts:4,407 Points:899,440 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:09:33 AM Ignore turbodog Report Abuse interesting story, but where's the fuel connection?
cssco Champion Author Virginia Posts:4,933 Points:1,290,945 Joined:Feb 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:07:38 AM Ignore cssco Report Abuse Arizona has the same problem with english teachers. They neither speak or understand the language in some cases but, there they are teaching.
naw62 Champion Author Maine Posts:7,135 Points:1,759,520 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:07:18 AM Ignore naw62 Report Abuse No oil story here
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:24,682 Points:1,881,535 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:06:56 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Is this an aviation flying site? What has this got to do with fuel and vehicles? This is way Off Topic!
JimTee Champion Author Tampa Posts:2,322 Points:1,192,575 Joined:Apr 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:06:15 AM Ignore JimTee Report Abuse How does this effect the price of gas?
DieselKat Champion Author Tennessee Posts:2,613 Points:1,865,615 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:03:51 AM Ignore DieselKat Report Abuse What has this got to do with the price of oil and fuel.
Wwagon Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,020 Points:248,950 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:03:34 AM Ignore Wwagon Report Abuse One more thing from China that is of poor quality. Let's outsource more of our manufacturing there?
21597 Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,622 Points:1,368,600 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:02:55 AM Ignore 21597 Report Abuse Ain't government wonderful
rjoeh Champion Author Michigan Posts:5,755 Points:2,060,640 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:02:11 AM Ignore rjoeh Report Abuse Sad part is the people of china have to endure crashes like this because their system is so filled with bribes and payoffs, that real credible experience is hard to spot from the fakes.
dhawk24 Champion Author Maine Posts:5,540 Points:1,149,835 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:00:50 AM Ignore dhawk24 Report Abuse I guess before I fly again I will check to see where the pilot is from.
rrtr Champion Author San Jose Posts:13,964 Points:2,364,080 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:00:47 AM Ignore rrtr Report Abuse talk about off topic
turbosaab Champion Author Cleveland Posts:14,959 Points:1,949,015 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 7:00:20 AM Ignore turbosaab Report Abuse As long as they are flying domestic flights, who cares?
plbell627 Champion Author Dayton Posts:3,014 Points:753,150 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:59:57 AM Ignore plbell627 Report Abuse China will do as they want no one can tell them how to runa business including airlines.
Foxt Champion Author Minnesota Posts:2,936 Points:1,562,115 Joined:Jul 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:56:25 AM Ignore Foxt Report Abuse Do you think they have been on the up and up about anything?
21597 Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,622 Points:1,368,600 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:56:16 AM Ignore 21597 Report Abuse so
zdn Champion Author New Jersey Posts:1,722 Points:732,990 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:55:52 AM Ignore zdn Report Abuse and this will decrease gas?
Marson Champion Author Scranton Posts:6,703 Points:1,627,195 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:55:49 AM Ignore Marson Report Abuse Not surprising in China.
rtw777 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,048 Points:1,378,375 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:55:05 AM Ignore rtw777 Report Abuse A country of lies.
braves89 Champion Author Chicago Posts:5,340 Points:1,168,895 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:52:52 AM Ignore braves89 Report Abuse sounds like our il politicians advised chiina on how to give out license'
WVUtailgater Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:6,107 Points:1,235,500 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:51:09 AM Ignore WVUtailgater Report Abuse remember China is the land of what ever you can get someone to sign off on.
Cruiser340 Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:10,318 Points:2,330,215 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:51:02 AM Ignore Cruiser340 Report Abuse and they never checked up on them? Think they would have thought something was wrong when they asked where to put the key...
nerde Champion Author Florida Posts:3,906 Points:859,575 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:50:36 AM Ignore nerde Report Abuse Big government regulations!
papou Champion Author Tampa Posts:8,502 Points:1,449,990 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:46:59 AM Ignore papou Report Abuse does this surprise us !
kyrunner Champion Author Lexington Posts:6,610 Points:1,236,090 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:45:37 AM Ignore kyrunner Report Abuse Unless these so-called pilots are all planning on using thier planes to hit all refineries in the U.S. at once, what does this have to do with gas prices?
MUSTANGSRUS Champion Author Ontario Posts:7,394 Points:1,510,045 Joined:Sep 2006	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:44:50 AM Ignore MUSTANGSRUS Report Abuse Interesting, but does not belong on this forum.
mk9999 Champion Author Rochester Posts:5,568 Points:1,209,870 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:44:48 AM Ignore mk9999 Report Abuse Stay away from everything China.
Bonanza Champion Author Boston Posts:9,312 Points:2,088,980 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:44:29 AM Ignore Bonanza Report Abuse And this will affect gas prices how?
Don1222 Champion Author Michigan Posts:7,802 Points:1,089,855 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Sep 9, 2010 6:44:01 AM Ignore Don1222 Report Abuse Don't fly China Air.