geminijax

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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 11:39:13 PM
Tomeboy, those aren't merely fear mongering comments. That's stark reality.
I don't know what background you have when it comes to financial matters. I have over twenty years of experience when it comes to investing.
Try reading the book "Aftershock". Their predictions are coming true.
A decline in the USD will be a major reason for wildly inflated prices in the US, not necessarily in every country in the world. The dollar supply has already tripled over the last few years. Think supply & demand here.
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1006

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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 10:02:05 PM
would it be the O admin has them tied up?
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 8:42:07 PM
More like both - stop spending/borrowing AND raise taxes.
Last August when the U.S. credit rating was downgraded for the first time in history, a former White House economic advisor said the total Fed govt obligations (promises made by politicians), less expected income from taxes, was more like $211 trillion. That would include Medicare and Medicaid benefits, Food Stamps, Defense etc., and of course, giving back to the taxpayer the money they paid into Social Security. Social Security payments are expected to be about $3 trillion per year alone!
He said, "What you have to do is either immediately and permanently raise taxes by about TWO-THIRDS, or immediately and permanently cut every dollar of spending by 40 percent forever."
Now, do we really think these failed lawyers, turned politician in Washington D.C. would have the spine to do either of the above?
But the problem just gets worse the longer they avoid the solution and the pain of inevitable forced austerity becomes that much more severe.
I would guess that about the time we see more and more politicians not running for re-election and buying a home off-shore will be about the time we're going over the cliff. I know I wouldn't want to be a politician staring at the sharp end of a pitch fork!
Oh and the States aren't doing to well either...
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melvindale

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 1:20:47 PM
One alternative would be to go back with full force, and then add states to the USA. States like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Israel. We can follow those up with Syria, Jordan, Lebanon, Turkey.....
Then we will be the world leader - no question!
(You know we were better respected in the decades following the USA winning a world war.) (or 2)
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melvindale

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 1:15:37 PM
What it means is that the US Government will actually have to stop spending what they don't have. If they don't, the US dollar becomes worthless and any product with parts from other countries will skyrocket.
So, either they quit spending, or they quadruple taxes. The tax thing will put us into a depression so bad, the "Great Depression" will be seen as a blip.
Quit spending so much!
Quit giving money to other countries.
Quit giving money to businesses that are already profitable.
Quit paying farmers NOT to grow. They'll figure it out on their own, when there is an ACTUAL free market.
Quit spending money to find out things you can learn on the internet.
I know they will quit giving money back to the states, which will drastically reduce public higher education.
Thanks for the internet. Thanks for personal computers. However stop doing things in the hope that someday something helpful will come of it.
BUT.....They will probably raise taxes, or attempt to do nothing.....At least until the rest of us lynch them all and burn down Washington DC.
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1006

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 5:57:01 AM
we have always thought that we were IT, and we are truly not. the USA is on the decline thanks to 'leaders' like O. It's time for a change!
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dond

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 5:31:05 AM
the dollar is going down the drain!
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jrs4125

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 5:16:39 AM
This news about the BRICS counties is old news. It has not been covered by US news outlets.
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KrsnaDragon

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 4:09:30 AM
Very interesting, and, unfortunately, much of it is true.
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JuicyQ69

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 3:26:40 AM
Well that's just dandy!
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justmedc

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 1:29:33 AM
still would rather stay in the US than go to another country (except to visit) super power or not
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Tomeboy

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 1:24:37 AM
That's not fear... that's reality...
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:50:05 AM
Another 'definition of fear' is $16 trillion in debt, 108 percent of the gross domestic product.
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Tomeboy

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:41:17 AM
Here we go again... another doom and gloom article.
Fear mongering comments from this article...
Massive inflation, high interest rates, and substantial increases in the cost of food, clothing, and gasoline will make the 2008 recession look like nothing more than a bump in the road. This will be a crater. The government will be unable to finance its debts. The house of cards, built on the assumption that the world would rely on US dollars forever, will come tumbling down.
More fear mongering comments from this article...
The end of dollar dominance is a very ominous sign for the US economy… especially since the federal government seems to be ignoring this enormous elephant. Ignore it at your peril – or get advice from over 30 financial experts that will help you thrive during the tumultuous times ahead.]
Sounds like an advertising article to me... Show me the money?
Fear mongering definition:
Fear mongering (or scaremongering or scare tactics) is the use of fear to influence the opinions and actions of others towards some specific end. The feared object or subject is sometimes exaggerated, and the pattern of fear mongering is usually one of repetition, in order to continuously reinforce the intended effects of this tactic, sometimes in the form of a vicious circle.
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dhdiesel

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:24:47 AM
How bad is the US problem? Former Treasury official Lawrence Goodman recently pointed out that investors are shunning US bonds and notes; the lack of other buyers forced the Federal Reserve to buy "a stunning . . . 61 percent of the total net issuance of US government debt" last year. Like many others, he warns that ballooning debt puts the US economy at risk for a sharp correction.
A number of countries are abandoning the dollar for the Chinese yuan. Last December, Japan and China agreed to trade in yen and yuan. In January, the 10 nations of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations finalized a non-dollar credit agreement equivalent to $240 billion, strengthening their economies’ links with China, Japan and South Korea.
Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao signed a currency-swap agreement with the United Arab Emirates, which holds 7 percent of the world’s oil reserves. Iran has agreed to accept rubles and yuan in trade with Russia and China, and now is trading oil with India in rupees and gold.
In late March, the China Development Bank agreed with its counterparts in Brazil, Russia, India and South Africa to eschew dollar lending and extend credit to each other in their own respective currencies.
With global demand for dollars falling, central banks around the world will inevitably reduce their dollar reserves. That selloff further weakens the dollar against other currencies and in turn drives up inflation.
All this comes as US federal debt is soaring, adding to concerns about the future value of that debt and of the dollar.
source: NY Post
Once you have started QE (money printing) in a recession lacking any REAL signs of economic "recovery", you cannot stop QE without the whole darn thing falling apart. Undisciplined debt and money creation is unsustainable, period.
[Edited by: dhdiesel at 5/2/2012 1:29:27 AM EST]
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flahusky

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:12:16 AM
US $ has been weak for well over 2 decades, so this is just natural progression.
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Colts13

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:12:11 AM
Ok.
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TBONE3

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:01:55 AM
Things change!
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2bigtanks

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Message Posted: May 2, 2012 12:01:07 AM
OK
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nomad228

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:58:40 PM
yep,one world bank,one world religion,one world gov'ment.that's when God comes back and says guess what your done now i 'm taking over. : ) can't wait for it.i just hope and pray i am long gone before they try it. don't want to be here when he destroys 5/6ths of the armies and sends them back to tell the one world gov'ment "i am" is in charge now.i would rather be in heaven watching them try to tell God how it is. : ) hahahahahaha not gonna happen as God shakes his finger at them and says ah ah ah no no no listen to your heavenly father because "i am " the one setting the rules now. hahahaha :)
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sluggopyle

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:57:06 PM
>> Topic: The Media Won't Touch This Story About The End Of The US Dollar << ... because it isn't a "story" in the first place. It's an opinion column. DUH.
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coke_kid

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:57:02 PM
Well its not helping by having Obama as President,
Obama said he was going to cut our debt in half and he has now spent 6 TRILLION IN 3.5 YRS killing the US Dollar value.
Apologizes to every country putting down America.
and now were in line to be Greece as Obama destroys this country..
Obama must go in Nov... for a better AMERICA...
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gus8441

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:55:41 PM
buy silver
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pyndasky

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:54:08 PM
how can you blame this on Presidents Obama, Bush, or anybody.... for a consumer-based economy like ours, this is inevitable.
[Edited by: pyndasky at 5/2/2012 12:55:37 AM EST]
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danreino

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:54:04 PM
Spend, spend, spend, spend, spend; and we'll all be doing wonderful now, wont we ? Either reinstate (some how) the Gold Standard based on the American Dollar or be ready to hold The Red Star proudly high in hand until 2063.
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Tigercat88

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:52:53 PM
Thanks to Bush and Obama we are losing our power in the world. Bring back Ronnie Reagan.
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pyndasky

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:52:31 PM
as a market, we consume alot but as the consumption in China and India grows, the influence of the Dollar and the Euro will continue to fade...
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Dodge_Me

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:51:08 PM
Interesting
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vegboy

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:50:43 PM
read the book aftershock
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pastorpaulcg

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:50:20 PM
Ok
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vulcan96

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:46:49 PM
gloom and doom is coming soon....
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bdlewis

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:44:47 PM
Of course not
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miser709

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:44:41 PM
That's obvious.
[Edited by: miser709 at 5/2/2012 12:46:08 AM EST]
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danol43

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:44:14 PM
Globama at work...
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GordoM

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:43:25 PM
Fewer international deals made in dollars does not mean the $ will collapse. Fall in the value of the $ is the more the cause than the effect of changing currency patterns.
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GAS1251

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:42:57 PM
Obama has stated in the past he favored a world currency over the dollar.
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GigHarborHound

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:42:42 PM
Maybe OhBowMa can brag about killing the dollar too!!!!
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kosciak

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:42:13 PM
ok
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Rageagainsttm

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:41:41 PM
ok
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us4usa

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:39:35 PM
Only a fool thinks its OK to max his credit cards, Uncle Sam's cards are MAX...
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granitestater

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:39:11 PM
Go ahead and try. The dollar is the World's Currency because we don't devalue or otherwise tweak it's worth on the world's market. Stability is the key.
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Buddy2264

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:37:41 PM
This will prove to be interesting, I hope the US is ready for it. I say return to the gold standard in the US.
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JimL1

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:36:34 PM
OK, YAWN.
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jrschl

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:35:25 PM
It's all cyclical. We have to elect leaders, not career politicians, who are in it just to line their pockets.
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flghtmedic

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:34:27 PM
Ok
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TIGERPAW46

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:34:11 PM
Yes we know. A few yrs ago they wanted the Euro to be supreme. More recent it was the Chinese monetary unit that was proposed to be King of the mountain. What some don't understand is that buying internationally is less expensive if the US dollar is the media of trade than having to pay with a currency we must exchange into.
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otherdave

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:31:46 PM
Right on coke kid!
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coke_kid

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:29:52 PM
Well its not helping by having Obama as President,
Obama said he was going to cut our debt in half and he has now spent 6 TRILLION IN 3.5 YRS killing the US Dollar value.
Apologizes to every country putting down America.
and now were in line to be Greece as Obama destroys this country..
Obama must go in Nov... for a better AMERICA...
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hamdriver

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:27:23 PM
That sucks
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judgemobile

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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 11:24:55 PM
The same "follow the socialist" media also was ORDERED to not report the SECOND DOWNGRADE of USA credit in early April, 2012. Remember the FURY when the first downgrade was reported in July, 2011 ? Bummer ORDERED them not to report the second downgrade because THE PUBLIC MIGHT BECOME CONFUSED AND ALARMED (meaning they may not vote for the commie in November.
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